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What's New? The rising current account deficit is threatening to slow the virtuous cycle of strong capital inflows: sharp fall in real interest rates, stronger consumption growth, above-trend GDP growth attracting higher capital flows. The rise in the current account deficit has caused accrual in foreign exchange reserves (net injection of foreign liquidity) to decline sharply, resulting in short-term interest rates (91-day T-Bill rate) rising by 150 basis points to 6.7% over the past four months.
Conclusion: Our base case view is that the current trend of almost zero net annual foreign liquidity will continue to push real interest rates higher, hurting debt-funded growth. Assuming that government and corporate business investments rise moderately, we think overall growth momentum will still slow from the current 8% to an average of 6.5% over the next four quarters.
Where could we be wrong? We think the key upside risk comes from a rapid and possible change in the government’s policy response, such as large-scale privatization of PSEs and/or increasing infrastructure investments by about US$20 billion per annum (from current US$25-30 billion). Such a response could also help boost FDI inflows and ease the transition to higher sustainable investment-driven growth. Click here for the complete article
A: Wouldn't it be great if all you had to do was buy a stock with a low P-E, hang on, wait for it to "get discovered" by other investors and then sell it for a quick profit? Unfortunately, investing isn't that simple.
P-E ratios are handy tools for investors. They tell you how much investors are willing to pay for each dollar of a company's earnings. They are calculated by dividing the company's stock price by its earnings per share.
The higher the ratio, the more badly investors want to own the stock. When a P-E gets too high relative to the rest of the stock market, its industry or even to its historical P-E range, that should make you stop and ask why that may be the case.
And there is some evidence that stocks with low P-E ratios have produced above-average returns, even adjusted for risk, according to the book A Random Walk Down Wall Street by Burton G. Malkiel. But Malkiel points out that this approach doesn't work all the time and a company's accounting can skew its P-E ratio.
P-E ratios by themselves aren't always good ways to make money in stocks. Sometimes stocks with low P-Es are cheap for a reason. They may be trying to sell products nobody wants, or have other problems. If that's the case, there's no guarantee the company will try to fix its problems. And even if it does, that doesn't mean the efforts will be rewarded by investors.
Consider Ford. In 1995, the automaker had the lowest P-E ratio of all the members of the Standard & Poor's 500, according to S&P's Capital IQ. But investors who bought Ford stock on Dec. 29, 1995 because of its low P-E and held it would be disappointed, because - despite a runup in the interim - the stock was lower on Dec. 30, 2005. Certainly, you can find plenty of examples of stocks that did have low P-Es and ended up doing rather well, but it's not a guarantee.
So, what's another problem in choosing stocks that have low P-Es? You might miss out on some great stocks with high P-Es. A good example is Google. The stock ended 2004 at $192.79 a share and reported earnings for the year of $1.46 a share. That gave the stock a staggering 132 P-E. Using your rule, you would have avoided Google. But guess what? The stock gained another 115% in 2005, making it one of the best performers on the Nasdaq.
The final problem with P-Es is how to decide what's a "low" P-E. You might say 15 is low. Someone else might think that's expensive. It really depends on what industry you're looking at. A 15 P-E is high for regional banks, but low for technology companies.
Again, this is not to say P-Es are worthless. They are definitely important for investors to monitor and can be great benchmarks to show how popular a stock is. And sometimes, buying stocks with low P-E ratios relative to the stock market can pay off handsomely. When I analyze a stock, the P-E is one of the things I consider. But they aren't a perfect tool, so you shouldn't treat them that way.
| SI Team / Mumbai January 30, 2006 Seven stock market stalwarts debate the prospects for Indian stocks in the annual round-table organised by Capitalideasonline.com. |
| Ramesh Damani: Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to this round table. In the comedy “Shall we dance” actress Susan Sarandon, talking to an acquaintance, poses the question, “why is it that people get married?” People get married, she muses, because they want a witness to their lives. Fast forward to 2006. The romance with Indian equities is in full bloom and today we assemble, the great witnesses to what we call the great Indian bull market. |
| In this cathedral to capitalism, in this hallowed hall, the soul of the Indian stock market, if you will, when this group of witnesses last assembled in 2003, the Sensex was at 3000 -- it has now tripled; the number of Indian companies with a $1 billion market cap has crossed 75 and India's market cap is over $500 billion. |
| In 2003, when we asked our panelists what they thought of the market, the opinion was unanimous and prophetic. They all said “bull market ahead.” What are they saying in 2006? |
| Is India today where Japan was in the 1960s? Are these valuations sustainable? |
| Can oil prices or terrorism or the Iran American conflict derail this global economic expansion? These are just some of the questions that we are going to pose today. And as usual, we start with Rakesh because you can't keep him quiet for half an hour! |
| In November 2003, Rakesh said I am an India bull and we are just watching the trailer. My first question today is: Have the hero and heroine met or are the credits rolling? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: I would say the trailer has given us confidence that the movie is going to be very good. I think the momentum in the Indian economy now ,is like never before. With every passing day, every Indian is getting more confident. Of course, this is being helped by the fact that he is making money when he invests in the markets. So, I would say that the trailer is over. About the hero and heroine – I don't know. |
| I'm not a scriptwriter but my feeling is that at this juncture, there is good growth momentum and people are confident that this will sustain. I think that's important because that itself will contribute to the growth of the economy and the momentum. |
| Ramesh Damani: In terms of the movie analogy, are we at the interval? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: I think we are just seeing the titles. After the trailer, you see the titles, no? I am not some political theorist or economics professor, I am share bazaar road cheap. |
| But I feel that kind of prosperity towards which India is marching and the manner in which it is marching is unbelievable. It's not a view because the index is 10,000. Even if the index falls to 7000 tomorrow, I will hold the same view. |
| Ramesh Damani: Rakesh, is there anything you'd like to see in the budget? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: Sometimes I wonder about the reforms we have had the last 24 months. Right? Now we had a very skillful Finance Minister who has been able to meet so-called social needs, through small doses of taxation. We have had VAT. |
| What I feel now is that governments are inconsequential. And I draw comfort from my study of history which tells me that when a democratic society decides what is in its favor, the happening of that is inevitable. There are Communists in Delhi and capitalists in Calcutta. Every politician realizes the inevitability of reform. |
| And what will the government do in the budget? They will tinker a bit here and there. I only hope that the FBT goes and that the STT does not increase. You know the government of India might never have collected even Rs 1000 crores as long-term capital gain tax. |
| And they have collected Rs 3000 crores through STT this year. And they want to increase the rate? The only thing that is disturbing is that something which pays is being taxed to death. My only wish is this should not happen. |
| Ramesh Damani: Right. Rakesh, you know, three years ago there were many doubters even in this audience about whether India was heading for this long structural secular bull market you talked about so passionately. Are you astonished at what has happened? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: You know sometimes I feel like singing “ki shayed tu aise hai jaisaa maine socha tha.” Right? By God's grace things have panned out as I envisaged them. But the true believers will be seen when the index corrects by 2000 points. |
| Ramesh Damani: Doesn't the pace and the resilience astonish you? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: I personally feel that at this level, we are entering the first stage of the domestic inflows. The moment the investors gain, they will invest more. And I think there is humungous domestic money to come. Unimaginable. You know Indian savings in 2010 is projected to be $410 billion. |
| If 10 per cent is to flow, it will be $40 billion. So even if the index goes down 1000 or 2000 points, as long as India's growth story continues, the economic story continues, I think the market is just going to march ahead. Of course there will be periods of correction. We don't know. |
| Ramesh Damani: Rakesh, what would be the themes that are important for the market in 06? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: Two things worry me. First , the world economy, because I think American consumption has to come down. How it will come down, how global currencies will realign, what effect is it going to have on global demand, that's going to be very important. |
| The American economy is going to tank in my opinion. When that happens, it will have a big effect on the sentiment towards equity. So we must be alert. Second, I think oil prices beyond a point are going to lead to higher inflation and higher interest rates. |
| Corporate profit growth in India may slow down. But if the essential story of an improvement in quality of profits, higher consumption, and a growth rate of 8 per cent is intact, I don't think a fall from 25 per cent growth in profits to 15 per cent is really going to disturb the market. It is events outside of the market, which will shake the confidence and also affect corporate profits substantially that would worry me. |
| Ramesh Damani: Rakesh, net net will 2006 be another positive year? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: If you ask any Dow theorists, they will tell you that if the market goes up for 3 days then it goes up for 5, and if it goes up for 5 days continuously, then it goes up for 8 etc. But it is reasonable to expect that this could be a negative year. But what difference is that going to make? |
| My investments have a entry value and a terminal value. And while trading, the screen talks to you and tells you. So badega to lenge, ghatega to bech denge. If it corrects, so be it. It's not going to affect my investment thoughts. |
| Ramesh Damani: You know it might correct within the year but overall we are still in the structural secular bull market? |
| Rakesh Jhunjhunwala: Very much. And I don't think something can slow it. |
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Panic on Wall Street***. Robert Sobel. Macmillan: 1978. (The definitive study of American panics.)
Manias, Panics, and Crashes****. Charles P. Kindleberger. Basic Books: 1988. (The best scholarly analysis of the species.)
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The Roaring ’80s***. Adam Smith.
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The
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The Way the World Works**. Jude Wanniski. Touchstone: 1978. (I’m prejudiced because I believe, but this is the supply-side Old Testament.)
Wealth and Poverty**. George Gilder. Basic Books: 1981. (The New Testament of supply side.)
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Confessions of an Advertising Man. ***. David Ogilvy. Atheneum: 1964. (Wonderful treatise on how to sell consumer products, written with wit and wisdom.)
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Here are some of the interesting links on "Magic Formula Investing" concept by Joel Greenblatt. 1. Magic Formula Part 1 2. Magic Formula Part 2 3. Magic Formula Part 3 4. Magic Formula Part 4 5. The Most Magical Formula of All 6. Most Magical Formula of All - Bull Market Component
Bull Markets are born in pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature of optimism, and die of euphoria. - Sir John Templeton
by Andy Xie/ Morgan Stanley Financial markets have a tight consensus on goldilocks: Investors now have a powerful consensus on the continuation of the goldilocks scenario – low inflation, low interest rates, ample liquidity and strong growth. Under this scenario, investors expect Asia and commodities to outperform.
Three expectations drive financial markets: Expectations of Chinese revaluation, a Japanese growth boom, and ever-rising commodity prices are the three horsemen driving asset prices today. I believe all three are based on faulty logic and are simply expectation bubbles in a liquidity boom.
The current speculative cycle should end with inflation, deflation, or a shock: The current cycle is led by financial markets, which have pushed down risk premiums, and is likely to end with trends or events that trigger the risk reduction trade and rising risk premiums. Surging oil prices, overcapacity, or a random shock could trigger the trade, in my view Click here for the complete article
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The markets continue their northbound journey, resulting in the indices breaching their earlier highs. Like every time, even at these levels, the same questions daunts investors. What should I do at the current levels? Where should I park my funds?
In our view, at the current juncture, investors have three choices:
Invest in tips that he has heard from someone and make a quick 5% or so gain in 2 to 3 days.
Invest in fundamentally strong stocks, which will yield meaningful returns over the next two to three years.
Stay in cash (Cash is king).
If one takes the pain to go back in history, making money on a consistent basis requires patience and the longer the time horizon, the better the results i.e. higher the yields. Unlike a short-term trader, the risk involved in long-term investing is relatively lower i.e. monitoring day-to-day movement of prices is not a necessity. However, some may opt for a short-term investment strategy at the current market levels, hoping to ride on the wave. But in our view, this exercise can be futile. We also suggest investors to increase the cash component in their investment portfolio, given the sharp rise in prices.
This is because stock markets can go down as fast as it rose in the first place (if not faster). Even a small hint of fear taking over can end up in a contagion, hurting the sentiment of those for who believe that there's no stopping markets from going up, up, and higher!
To conclude, we would like to advise investors that there is no foolproof method to make money in the markets, but the risk return ratio is favourable for the investor in the long run. Disciplined investment approach is the ultimate key to success in investing. After all, you don't want to get caught on the wrong foot. Do you?
Investors do not seem to care about imbalances anymore: At Morgan Stanley’s MacroVision seminar last week, investors expressed no concerns over global imbalances and believed that any adjustment would be very gradual without overly affecting financial markets.
Imbalances reflect the Fed’s policy: The global imbalances – excessive consumption/large trade deficit in the
Bubbles may pop in 2006: Asset inflation-led demand growth may run into trouble in 2006 as high oil prices,
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By periodically investing in an index fund, for example, the know-nothing investor can actually out-perform most investment professionals. Paradoxically, when "dumb" money acknowledges its limitations, it ceases to be dumb. - Warren E. Buffett
What is your investment strategy?
NS: At PruICICI we follow a logical approach while investing. We ask ourselves two simple questions. First, will the company/stock be in existence after 10 years? Second, will it make more money than the other existing options in the market? As simple as this may sound, historic track record has proven that this is an excellent approach to investing in equities. During 1995, this approach worked wonderfully when equity fund managers had to chose between Tisco, Rajinder Steel and Lloyd Steel or between HDFC Bank, Apple Finance and Anagram Finance.
SS: By and large we follow a bottom up strategy for most of our funds. In the present Indian equity markets scenario, the attractiveness of India as an investment destination as a top down investment theme is taken for granted. The scope to generate alfa in the performance of funds lies mostly in superior stock selection.
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Investors use brokers and financial advisors because they don't know everything about managing money. That's okay, but only to a point.
A good advisor will explain what he or she is doing with your money, in a way that is simple and clear enough for people who aren't financiers to understand.
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